does anyone feel the scar and m4a1 are kinda noobish

i got nothing against these guns i have used them both, but everyone seems to use them and then throw stopping power on them and it seems like the can take you out like nobodys business. it is kind of annoying to get killed with them cus i feel they dont take much skill especially the scar-h. idk i just feel they are kind of noob like weapons im not putting anyone down who uses these but i would like to here other opinions.....btw me personally I normally stick to the UMP, USP, M21 EBR, ACR, and my knife

I get kills pretty easily with them and have noticed that most of the time I only actually hit someone with three or so bullets.

exactley it feels like you cn just mow people down it seems like thats all i get killed by lol

I love using the M4A1 w/silencer on my Anit-Air class (cold blooded and ninja)

they both are very good guns with no recoil

I would say the SCAR-H is a little more "noobish" due to its power, but at the same time the clip size isn't the greatest

To me though the M21, UMP and the Knife is more "noobish" lately I have been noticing people spamming the M21 like its a shotgun that can also snipe and/or running with UMP while using marathon, lightweight and commando and knifing people through lag

it all comes down to what people find easier to do:

is it noobish to keep my sights on an enemy for 4-5 hits with my M4A1 turn and take out his teammate that just noticed me with the last bullets in my clip or is it noobish to instead run up to one knife him and then go and knife the teammate that was shooting at me the whole time?

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To me though the M21, UMP and the Knife is more "noobish" lately I have been noticing people spamming the M21 like its a shotgun that can also snipe and/or running with UMP while using marathon, lightweight and commando and knifing people through lag


this makes no sense no offense:
if u get hit with a m21 when they arnt sniping either they were lucky, ur not very good, or they used up a whole clip to kill u... iknow cuz i have been in the situation were you dont have time to aim or switch weapons it is not spamming. as for the ump its not noobish cus its not as powerful and your not using stopping power i rock a silencer witch even brings down my range. and as for the knifing it is not lag it is the perk it lets you lunge and its all about timing i have been shot down plenty of times mid knife. and lightweight pro is necassary so you can get the jump on aiming cus your gun is weaker then the person shooting at you. but its not lag or spamming and the only way you are gunna knife that quick as you say is with a tac knife witch isnt noobish cus you need to earn it by killing people with a pistol so no i think this statement is erelevant but i respect it cus it is an opinion. but dont say that it is lag because it isnt at all

The SCAR is the only gun I use and I don't always get a ton of kills with it. On the other hand, it gave me my first nuke followed by five more. To me, it does have recoil and like another said, the clip size isn't that great unless you have Scavenger Pro. Overall, I don't think it's a super weapon. The two guns I see the most used in MP are the FAMAS and ACR assault rifles and even they are not that great. I haven't seen a "noobish" weapon yet. The thing that kills me the most though is the knife

You say the UMP isn't noobish?! It's more noobish than the M4A1 and the SCAR-H combined. But no I don't think that they are noobish.

sorry, but u say u use ump and acr, the 2 best guns of their class. Also most "noob" guns of their class since they require the least skill. Just clearing that up.

tell me how the ump is noob with just a silencer and no stopping power i would like to know this theory

if you look at the stats the mini uzi and the p90 both beat the ump and as far as the acr the m4a1 and the scar both beat it as well as others so i am sorry but you are mistakin

im goin to guess yall use the AA-12 too if you think that those are noob weapons

that wasnt the point i can use any gun but my point was that any bad player can do well with those guns but you have a valid point

BL3SSING_12 wrote:that wasnt the point i can use any gun but my point was that any bad player can do well with those guns but you have a valid point

any bad player can do well with any gun, your point is pointLESS. And yes, the acr is better than the m4a1. it has the almost the same ROF, more damage, waaaaaaay better accuracy (and the m4a1 has great accuracy). I wasnt saying that they are not great guns, or as you call `noob`guns, all i said was the guns you use are better than the m4a1/scar. By the way. All guns are balanced. M4a1 has high ROF good acc but low damage, scar has moderate ROF, moderate Acc, high damage and it has a low magazine, limiting alot. this is the reason why it NEEDS stopping without extnd mags. and the acr has amzn Acc, high ROF and moderate damage.... its all preference. By the way, those stat pictures arn't high accurate. look at the damage on the Famas ands M16, totally different, but they both need all 3 shots to connect in order to get the kill on core (without headshots)

I dont think either is a noob gun because of these reasons:

Scar- Short clip, Low ammo, high recoil
M4A1- Low Power, Bad Iron Sights

Thats pretty much it. I use both guns a little bit and i dont think they are noob guns

ok my point is valid and the acr has about the same damage as the m4a1 and the m4a1 has a way faster rate of fire any way as i said in the beginning i am not putting these weapons down i said i have used them i was just looking for opinions and answers such as what kyle put not to start an argument. especially with incorrect facts some guns are better than others and if you dont believe that you are ignorant. now this was not supposed to be an arguement i would like to move on.btw noob is just a word i like to use. and @kyle55 i actually enjoy the iron sights for the m4a1 it reminds me of the ump sights but bigger....carry on

BL3SSING_12 wrote:ok my point is valid and the acr has about the same damage as the m4a1 and the m4a1 has a way faster rate of fire any way as i said in the beginning i am not putting these weapons down i said i have used them i was just looking for opinions and answers such as what kyle put not to start an argument. especially with incorrect facts some guns are better than others and if you dont believe that you are ignorant. now this was not supposed to be an arguement i would like to move on.btw noob is just a word i like to use. and @kyle55 i actually enjoy the iron sights for the m4a1 it reminds me of the ump sights but bigger....carry on

there not noobish

ok just to clear up this whole noobish incident by that i meant too easy to use and a little overpowered and I FEEL its more the scar not so much the m4a1

Look it all boils down to the individuals aiming skill. It only takes me 2-3 bullets with the SCAR-H because I aim for your dome 95% of the time. While the other guys running up blastin a whole clip, I just stay calm and and put the RDS between the eyes!! I don't see how any gun is "noobish" and anyone who has played at least 2 CoD titles isn't really a noob. I'm done with my soapbox.............Proceed

The true noobish weapon: Akimbo 1887's. Unbalanced, overpowered garbage.

BL3SSING_12 wrote:ok my point is valid and the acr has about the same damage as the m4a1 and the m4a1 has a way faster rate of fire

But the ACR is significantly more accurate + Lower Recoil.

tbh, all the assault rifles are fairly evenly matched with each other. But saying that, AR's are overpowered compared to other weapon classes (SMG's spring immediately to mind)

OK i could care a less about a rifle being considered noobish(NO OFFENSE), whats noobish is someone running around with a RPG, M203 Grenade launcher Attachment, AT4 rocket launcher, and akimbo model 1887. those would be considered noobish because it doesn't take much "skill" to blow someone up. or shotgun someone in the back 20 feet away with dual shotties.

that's my brutal opinion.

ok i can agree with that but now lets throw up the javelin is that kind of "noobish"?

BL3SSING_12 wrote:ok i can agree with that but now lets throw up the javelin is that kind of "noobish"?

Only using the glitch. The Javelin in and of itself is not noobish in my opinion.